David Jones

David Jones

b: 1791
d:
1841 Census:

Source: HO107/543/7 Salford - Pendleton - 9 - Folio 22 - Page 5 - Line 7. GSU Number 306927.
Mill Street, nr Brettargh Square Civil Parish: Eccles; Hundred: Salford; County: Lancs; Registration district: Salford; Sub-registration district: Pendleton.

David Jones 50 (b.1791) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Elizabeth Jones 50 (b.1791) Born in same county
Mary Ann Jones 25 (b.1816) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Frances Jones 20 (b.1821) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Frederick Jones 15 (b.1826) Cotton weaving Born in same county Frederick was actually born in 1825.

Neighbours included the Jacksons(C, John, William), the Layars (George, John, Joseph, Mary, Thomas), the Parkinsons (Ann, Eliza, James, Martha, Mary), Dennis Roach, Mary Thompson, the Turners (Ann, John, Joseph, Mary)

In the 1851 census, David and Elizabeth were living with their daughter Mary and son-in-law Benjamin Webster, and working as house servants. The parish or Roman Catholic records of marriages in 1814-16 might reveal Elizabeth's surname.

My mother told my brother that our father's family came from Mold, Flintshire, but the record above, with the evidence that David Jones was born in Lancashire, seems to show that it was his parents or grandarents who came from Wales, not him.

This was near the start of the industrial revolution and from 'Prince of Pleasure' by Saul David, a book about the the times of George III and his son the Prince of Wales, I note (p.198) that Beau Brummell, who was then Captain of a troop in the Prince's regiment, the 10th Light Dragoons, resigned (not, I think, out of principle), when the regiment was warned that it might be sent to Lancashire to put down disturbances amongst cotton spinners.

Alan Ray-Jones.


From GenUKI:

"Mold is a market town situated in a small but fertile plain, surrounded by rugged hills, richly productive of mineral treasure. It consists principally of one long and spacious street, comprising 682 houses, and has a population amounting to 4235. On the north side is a mount, partly natural, and partly artificial, from where is a fine view of of the circumjacent country, with Moel-y-famma (sic) rising proudly pre-eminent among the Clwydian hills".
[From North Wales, Rev. J. Evans, 1812]

Mold is one of the "ancient parishes" of Flintshire, and originally comprised the twenty-five townships of Arddunwent, Argoed, Birchenald, Bistre, Broncoed, Cilrhedynnen, Groesonnen, Gwernaffield, Gwernymynydd, Gwysanau, Hartsheath, Hendebifa, Leeswood, Llai, Llong, Llwynegrin, Nercwys, Pantymwyn, Pontbleiddyn, Pentre, Rhual, Rhydgoli, Tre'r Beirdd, Treuddyn and Waunyrwyddfid.
Both Nercwys and Treuddyn became chapelries at an early date, and by the nineteenth century they were effectively separate parishes, although until 1832 they were administered jointly.
On 23 May 1844, the new parish of Bistre was created, from the township of Bistre and part of the township of Argoed.
On the same date, the new parish of Gwernaffield was created from the townships of Gwernaffield and Hendrebifa; and the new parish of Pontbleiddyn was created from the township of Hartsheath and part of the township of Leeswood.
On 27 May 1844, Nercwys was officially recognised as a separate parish, comprising the townships of Nercwys and Arddunwent.
In 1865, part of the township of Gwysanau was lost to the new parish of Rhydymwyn

END
Manchester Cathedral certificate 1342 (page 448) describes him as a 'Servant Man'. He couldn't sign his name but Elizabeth signed hers. They were married by Jos. Broookes in the presence of John Beard. There may have been other witnesses but no names were recorded.
Biography
1841 Census:

Source: HO107/543/7 Salford - Pendleton - 9 - Folio 22 - Page 5 - Line 7. GSU Number 306927.
Mill Street, nr Brettargh Square Civil Parish: Eccles; Hundred: Salford; County: Lancs; Registration district: Salford; Sub-registration district: Pendleton.

David Jones 50 (b.1791) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Elizabeth Jones 50 (b.1791) Born in same county
Mary Ann Jones 25 (b.1816) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Frances Jones 20 (b.1821) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Frederick Jones 15 (b.1826) Cotton weaving Born in same county Frederick was actually born in 1825.

Neighbours included the Jacksons(C, John, William), the Layars (George, John, Joseph, Mary, Thomas), the Parkinsons (Ann, Eliza, James, Martha, Mary), Dennis Roach, Mary Thompson, the Turners (Ann, John, Joseph, Mary)

In the 1851 census, David and Elizabeth were living with their daughter Mary and son-in-law Benjamin Webster, and working as house servants. The parish or Roman Catholic records of marriages in 1814-16 might reveal Elizabeth's surname.

My mother told my brother that our father's family came from Mold, Flintshire, but the record above, with the evidence that David Jones was born in Lancashire, seems to show that it was his parents or grandarents who came from Wales, not him.

This was near the start of the industrial revolution and from 'Prince of Pleasure' by Saul David, a book about the the times of George III and his son the Prince of Wales, I note (p.198) that Beau Brummell, who was then Captain of a troop in the Prince's regiment, the 10th Light Dragoons, resigned (not, I think, out of principle), when the regiment was warned that it might be sent to Lancashire to put down disturbances amongst cotton spinners.

Alan Ray-Jones.


From GenUKI:

"Mold is a market town situated in a small but fertile plain, surrounded by rugged hills, richly productive of mineral treasure. It consists principally of one long and spacious street, comprising 682 houses, and has a population amounting to 4235. On the north side is a mount, partly natural, and partly artificial, from where is a fine view of of the circumjacent country, with Moel-y-famma (sic) rising proudly pre-eminent among the Clwydian hills".
[From North Wales, Rev. J. Evans, 1812]

Mold is one of the "ancient parishes" of Flintshire, and originally comprised the twenty-five townships of Arddunwent, Argoed, Birchenald, Bistre, Broncoed, Cilrhedynnen, Groesonnen, Gwernaffield, Gwernymynydd, Gwysanau, Hartsheath, Hendebifa, Leeswood, Llai, Llong, Llwynegrin, Nercwys, Pantymwyn, Pontbleiddyn, Pentre, Rhual, Rhydgoli, Tre'r Beirdd, Treuddyn and Waunyrwyddfid.
Both Nercwys and Treuddyn became chapelries at an early date, and by the nineteenth century they were effectively separate parishes, although until 1832 they were administered jointly.
On 23 May 1844, the new parish of Bistre was created, from the township of Bistre and part of the township of Argoed.
On the same date, the new parish of Gwernaffield was created from the townships of Gwernaffield and Hendrebifa; and the new parish of Pontbleiddyn was created from the township of Hartsheath and part of the township of Leeswood.
On 27 May 1844, Nercwys was officially recognised as a separate parish, comprising the townships of Nercwys and Arddunwent.
In 1865, part of the township of Gwysanau was lost to the new parish of Rhydymwyn

END Manchester Cathedral certificate 1342 (page 448) describes him as a 'Servant Man'. He couldn't sign his name but Elizabeth signed hers. They were married by Jos. Broookes in the presence of John Beard. There may have been other witnesses but no names were recorded.
Facts
  • 1791 - Birth - ; Lancashire, England
  • 1851 - Census - ; Manchester
  • 1815 - Fact -
  • 1847 - Fact -
  • Occupation - Cotton weaver
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Family Group Sheet - Child
PARENT (U) ?
Birth
Death
Father?
Mother?
PARENT (U) ?
Birth
Death
Father?
Mother?
CHILDREN
MDavid Jones
Birth1791Lancashire, England
Death
Marriage10 OCT 1815to Elizabeth Chapman at Manchester Cathedral
Family Group Sheet - Spouse
PARENT (M) David Jones
Birth1791Lancashire, England
Death
Marriage10 OCT 1815to Elizabeth Chapman at Manchester Cathedral
Father?
Mother?
PARENT (F) Elizabeth Chapman
Birth
Death
Marriage10 OCT 1815to David Jones at Manchester Cathedral
Father?
Mother?
CHILDREN
FMary Ann Jones
Birth1816
Death
Marriage25 DEC 1843to Benjamin Webster at Manchester Cathedral
FFrances Jones
Birth1821
Death
MFrederick Jones
Birth13 FEB 1825Pendlebury, Lancashire.
Death16 JAN 1895Ashton Under Lyne
Marriage10 NOV 1847to Elizabeth Shepley at Dukinfield, District of Ashton and Oldham in the County of Lancaster and Chester. Married by George Fisher, Priest. Witn
Evidence
[S17187] Boyd's Marriage Index (1538-1840)
[S10998] Marriage Certificate obtained from the General Register Office through the Family Records Centre, London
[S33574] Sandra Mitcheson, researching Noonan and related families in Lancashire, 2004
Descendancy Chart
David Jones b: 1791
Mary Ann Jones b: 1816
Frances Jones b: 1821
Frederick Jones b: 13 FEB 1825 d: 16 JAN 1895
Elizabeth Shepley b: BEF 1 SEP 1826 d: 19 FEB 1894
Mary Frances Shepley Jones b: ABT 1855 d: 1926
Timothy Morrisey d: BEF MAY 1905
Gertrude Morrisey b: 1879 d: 1951
Patrick Noonan b: 1871 d: 1951
Frances Mary Noonan b: 14 JUL 1909 d: AUG 1999
Samuel Shepley JONES b: 1862 d: 1932
Martha HULME b: 15 APR 1861 d: 1927
Samuel Anthony Jones b: 18 MAR 1897 d: 1980
Raymond Jones b: 22 OCT 1928 d: 8 MAY 2010
Doris Booth d: 1994
Joseph Jones b: 1 OCT 1893 d: 31 OCT 1976
Cathleen Maud Wright b: 25 APR 1893 d: 7 MAY 1983
Gerard (Gerry) Jones b: APR 1918 d: NOV 1993
Barbara Jones b: JUL 1922 d: 15 AUG 2007
Elizabeth (Linda) H Jones b: 1890 d: 1968
Frances Jones b: 1891 d: 1971
Dorothy (Dolly) Jones b: ABT DEC 1901 d: ABT 16 AUG 1988
Mary Agnes JONES b: 8 APR 1888 d: 8 DEC 1980
Richard W McDERMOTT b: 21 DEC 1889 d: 3 MAR 1953
Joseph Herbert McDermott b: 5 DEC 1916 d: 13 MAY 2005
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Catherine Josephine McDERMOTT b: 2 SEP 1919 d: 6 JUN 1994
William "Bruce" WILSON b: 31 OCT 1915 d: 3 SEP 2007
Mary McDERMOTT b: 8 APR 1913 d: 15 JUN 1964
Margaret McDERMOTT b: 29 DEC 1915 d: 21 SEP 1958
Agnes McDERMOTT b: 23 OCT 1923 d: DEC 2009
George EDWARDS b: 25 FEB 1919 d: 26 JUN 2003
Anne McDERMOTT b: 22 DEC 1927 d: 6 NOV 2004
Frank BOOTHBY d: 22 SEP 2005
Richard Francis McDERMOTT b: 29 MAY 1928 d: 5 MAY 1978
Winifride Jones b: 25 SEP 1896
Raymond Ray-Jones R.E., A.R.C.A. b: 31 AUG 1886 d: 26 FEB 1942
Effie Irene Pearce b: 18 AUG 1899 d: 26 JAN 1996
Holroyd Anthony Ray-Jones b: 7 JUN 1941 d: 13 MAR 1972
David Jones b: 5 JUN 1858 d: 30 JAN 1908
Frederick Jones b: 1886
Florence d: ABT 1929
Alice Jones b: 1891
Elizabeth Ann Jones b: 20 FEB 1851 d: 18 NOV 1895