Frederick Jones

Frederick Jones

b: 13 FEB 1825
d: 16 JAN 1895
41 Hall Green
Dukinfield
Ashton Under Lyne
Lancashire
1841 Census:

Source: HO107/543/7 Salford - Pendleton - 9 - Folio 22 - Page 5 - Line 7. GSU Number 306927.
Mill Street, nr Brettargh Square [Salford] Civil Parish: Eccles; Hundred: Salford; County: Lancs; Registration district: Salford; Sub-registration district: Pendleton.

David Jones 50 (b.1791) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Elizabeth Jones 50 (b.1791) Born in same county
Mary Ann Jones 25 (b.1816) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Francis Jones 20 (b.1821) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Frederick Jones 15 (b.1826) Cotton weaving Born in same county

Neighbours included the Jacksons(C, John, William), the Layars (George, John, Joseph, Mary, Thomas), the Parkinsons (Ann, Eliza, James, Martha, Mary), Dennis Roach, Mary Thompson, the Turners (Ann, John, Joseph, Mary)

[Earlier note - made before the 1841 census came on-line]
Pendlebury [Film HO 107/543-1 and 2]:
Frederick Jones was born here. A search of some pages which fall under Pendlebury in the street index did find three Jones families, but none of the fathers was called David and none of the children Frederick - there are too many pages to search properly, though the film is very clear. They may of course be in Pendleton with Sabden on film HO 107/509, or in Swinton, and anyway Frederick may already have left home - aged 16. There is no surname index to the 1841 Census for Pendleton and Pendlebury. The 1841 Census didn't indicate where people were born but if Frederick's father David Jones can be found and then found again in the 1851 Census, the latter will give this information. Another possibility might be to get Frederick's birth certificate from the parish register and details of the witnesses at the christening. The IGI date for the latter may not be accurate and I don't know yet whether St Peter's is Anglican or Catholic. If the details for Elizbabeth are correct she might have been Unitarian.

Manchester [Film HO 107/576]:
Frederick was living at 60 Portugal St, Oldham Rd, Manchester just before he married in 1847 according to the marriage certificate, so I looked for David Jones on all the records for 'Jones' in Portugal Street on HO/576, and also films HO 107/2225 and HO 107/2228 (1851 census). I found no David and no Frederick. Portugal Street is in Manchester St George and the introductory paragraph in the 1851 surnames index reads: '(this was)..... the inner core of the city with a high content of adults born distant from Manchester, with a great proportion of the poorer fraternity not usually recorded on gravestones, or in conveniently alpabetised sources such as directories, wills...........'

1851 Census:

Duckinfield etc [Piece HO 107/2236 folio 50 page 9]:

Hyde Main Road, Newton

Ann Higham Head Mar 45 Housekeeper Born Cheshire, Werneth
Frederick Jones Son in law Mar 26 House painter Born Lancashire, Pendlebury
Elizabeth Jones Daughter Mar 24 Cotton weaver Born Cheshire, Werneth
Eliza Higham Daughter 7 Scholar Born Cheshire, Godley
Elizabeth Ann Jones Granddaughter 1 month Born Cheshire, Newton

NB: Werneth, Godley, Newton and Gee Cross are all within a mile or two of each other.


1861 Census:

Astley Street (no number given), Dukinfield (Parish of St John's) [Film RG9/2994 Folio 94 Page 6 Schedule 34]

Frederick Jones Head Mar 36 Painter Born Lancashire, Eccles
Elizabeth Jones Wife Mar 34 Cotton Weaver Born Cheshire, Gee Cross
Elizabeth Ann Jones Dau 10 Scholar Born Cheshire, Newton
Frances Jones Dau 6 Scholar Born Derbyshire, Glossop
David Jones Son 2 Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Ann Higham, Mother-in-Law Mar 55 Housekeeper Born Cheshire, Werneth
Eliza Higham Sister-in-Law Unm 17 Cotton Weaver Born Cheshire, Godley


1871 Census:

Dukinfield etc [Piece RG 10/4081 folio 32 page 17

311 Astley Road, Dukinfield, Cheshire (Parish of St Marks)

Frederick Jones Head Mar 46 House painter Born Lancashire, Pendlebury
Elizabeth Jones Wife Mar 45 Housekeeper at home Born Cheshire, Gee Cross
Elizabeth A Jones Daughter Un 20 Cotton weaver Born Cheshire, Godly
Frances Jones Daughter Un 16 Cotton weaver Born Derbyshire, Glossop
David Jones Son 12 Scholar Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Samuel Jones Son 9 Scholar Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Ann Higham Mother in law Deserted 65 Dependent on children Born Cheshire, Beacom
Eliza Coffey Lodger Mar 27 Cotton weaver Born Cheshire, Godly
Michael H Coffey Son 3 Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Austin Coffey Son 1 Born Cheshire, Dukinfield


1881 Census (Piece RG11/4052-9-120):

41 Hall Green, Dukinfield, Cheshire - Parliamentary Borough of Stalybridge: NB: U=Unmarried
(Even numbered houses in Hall Green were still standing in 1999)
Frederick Jones Head 56 House painter Born Pendlebury, Lancs
Elizabeth Wife 54 Born Gee Cross, Cheshire
Elizabeth Ann U Dau 30 Cotton Weaver Born Godley, Cheshire
David U Son 22 Cabinet Maker Born Dukinfield, Cheshire
Samuel U Son 19 Cabinet Maker apprentice do
Gertrude U Dau 2 do [incorrect, she was a granddaughter]

Note that at 37 Hall Green, Dukinfield (only two doors away) in 1881 were:

Timothy Morrisey Head Mar Cotton Mule Minder Born ?? County, Ireland
Frances Morrisey Wife Mar Cotton Weaver Born Glossop, Derbyshire [Mary Frances was Frederick's daughter]


There is a fine monument or headstone to Frederick Jones and his family in Duckinfield Cemetary. The inscription reads: "FREDERICK JONES of Dukinfield who departed this life Jan 16 1895, aged 68 years. Also ELIZABETH, his wife, who departed this life Feb 18 1894 aged 68 years. Also ELIZABETH ANN, their daughter, the beloved wife of Edward Grattan, who departed this life Nov 18 1895, aged 44 years. Also WINIFREDE JONES, granddaughter of the above, and beloved daughter of SAMUEL AND MARTHA JONES who died Sep 26 1896 aged 10 months. Also DAVID, son of Frederick and Elizabeth Jones, who died Jan 30 1905, in his 50th year".
Biography
41 Hall Green
Dukinfield
Ashton Under Lyne
Lancashire 1841 Census:

Source: HO107/543/7 Salford - Pendleton - 9 - Folio 22 - Page 5 - Line 7. GSU Number 306927.
Mill Street, nr Brettargh Square [Salford] Civil Parish: Eccles; Hundred: Salford; County: Lancs; Registration district: Salford; Sub-registration district: Pendleton.

David Jones 50 (b.1791) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Elizabeth Jones 50 (b.1791) Born in same county
Mary Ann Jones 25 (b.1816) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Francis Jones 20 (b.1821) Cotton weaving Born in same county
Frederick Jones 15 (b.1826) Cotton weaving Born in same county

Neighbours included the Jacksons(C, John, William), the Layars (George, John, Joseph, Mary, Thomas), the Parkinsons (Ann, Eliza, James, Martha, Mary), Dennis Roach, Mary Thompson, the Turners (Ann, John, Joseph, Mary)

[Earlier note - made before the 1841 census came on-line]
Pendlebury [Film HO 107/543-1 and 2]:
Frederick Jones was born here. A search of some pages which fall under Pendlebury in the street index did find three Jones families, but none of the fathers was called David and none of the children Frederick - there are too many pages to search properly, though the film is very clear. They may of course be in Pendleton with Sabden on film HO 107/509, or in Swinton, and anyway Frederick may already have left home - aged 16. There is no surname index to the 1841 Census for Pendleton and Pendlebury. The 1841 Census didn't indicate where people were born but if Frederick's father David Jones can be found and then found again in the 1851 Census, the latter will give this information. Another possibility might be to get Frederick's birth certificate from the parish register and details of the witnesses at the christening. The IGI date for the latter may not be accurate and I don't know yet whether St Peter's is Anglican or Catholic. If the details for Elizbabeth are correct she might have been Unitarian.

Manchester [Film HO 107/576]:
Frederick was living at 60 Portugal St, Oldham Rd, Manchester just before he married in 1847 according to the marriage certificate, so I looked for David Jones on all the records for 'Jones' in Portugal Street on HO/576, and also films HO 107/2225 and HO 107/2228 (1851 census). I found no David and no Frederick. Portugal Street is in Manchester St George and the introductory paragraph in the 1851 surnames index reads: '(this was)..... the inner core of the city with a high content of adults born distant from Manchester, with a great proportion of the poorer fraternity not usually recorded on gravestones, or in conveniently alpabetised sources such as directories, wills...........'

1851 Census:

Duckinfield etc [Piece HO 107/2236 folio 50 page 9]:

Hyde Main Road, Newton

Ann Higham Head Mar 45 Housekeeper Born Cheshire, Werneth
Frederick Jones Son in law Mar 26 House painter Born Lancashire, Pendlebury
Elizabeth Jones Daughter Mar 24 Cotton weaver Born Cheshire, Werneth
Eliza Higham Daughter 7 Scholar Born Cheshire, Godley
Elizabeth Ann Jones Granddaughter 1 month Born Cheshire, Newton

NB: Werneth, Godley, Newton and Gee Cross are all within a mile or two of each other.


1861 Census:

Astley Street (no number given), Dukinfield (Parish of St John's) [Film RG9/2994 Folio 94 Page 6 Schedule 34]

Frederick Jones Head Mar 36 Painter Born Lancashire, Eccles
Elizabeth Jones Wife Mar 34 Cotton Weaver Born Cheshire, Gee Cross
Elizabeth Ann Jones Dau 10 Scholar Born Cheshire, Newton
Frances Jones Dau 6 Scholar Born Derbyshire, Glossop
David Jones Son 2 Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Ann Higham, Mother-in-Law Mar 55 Housekeeper Born Cheshire, Werneth
Eliza Higham Sister-in-Law Unm 17 Cotton Weaver Born Cheshire, Godley


1871 Census:

Dukinfield etc [Piece RG 10/4081 folio 32 page 17

311 Astley Road, Dukinfield, Cheshire (Parish of St Marks)

Frederick Jones Head Mar 46 House painter Born Lancashire, Pendlebury
Elizabeth Jones Wife Mar 45 Housekeeper at home Born Cheshire, Gee Cross
Elizabeth A Jones Daughter Un 20 Cotton weaver Born Cheshire, Godly
Frances Jones Daughter Un 16 Cotton weaver Born Derbyshire, Glossop
David Jones Son 12 Scholar Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Samuel Jones Son 9 Scholar Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Ann Higham Mother in law Deserted 65 Dependent on children Born Cheshire, Beacom
Eliza Coffey Lodger Mar 27 Cotton weaver Born Cheshire, Godly
Michael H Coffey Son 3 Born Cheshire, Dukinfield
Austin Coffey Son 1 Born Cheshire, Dukinfield


1881 Census (Piece RG11/4052-9-120):

41 Hall Green, Dukinfield, Cheshire - Parliamentary Borough of Stalybridge: NB: U=Unmarried
(Even numbered houses in Hall Green were still standing in 1999)
Frederick Jones Head 56 House painter Born Pendlebury, Lancs
Elizabeth Wife 54 Born Gee Cross, Cheshire
Elizabeth Ann U Dau 30 Cotton Weaver Born Godley, Cheshire
David U Son 22 Cabinet Maker Born Dukinfield, Cheshire
Samuel U Son 19 Cabinet Maker apprentice do
Gertrude U Dau 2 do [incorrect, she was a granddaughter]

Note that at 37 Hall Green, Dukinfield (only two doors away) in 1881 were:

Timothy Morrisey Head Mar Cotton Mule Minder Born ?? County, Ireland
Frances Morrisey Wife Mar Cotton Weaver Born Glossop, Derbyshire [Mary Frances was Frederick's daughter]


There is a fine monument or headstone to Frederick Jones and his family in Duckinfield Cemetary. The inscription reads: "FREDERICK JONES of Dukinfield who departed this life Jan 16 1895, aged 68 years. Also ELIZABETH, his wife, who departed this life Feb 18 1894 aged 68 years. Also ELIZABETH ANN, their daughter, the beloved wife of Edward Grattan, who departed this life Nov 18 1895, aged 44 years. Also WINIFREDE JONES, granddaughter of the above, and beloved daughter of SAMUEL AND MARTHA JONES who died Sep 26 1896 aged 10 months. Also DAVID, son of Frederick and Elizabeth Jones, who died Jan 30 1905, in his 50th year".
Facts
  • 13 FEB 1825 - Birth - ; Pendlebury, Lancashire.
  • 13 FEB 1825 - Christening - ; St Peter's, Swinton, Lancashire (Church of England)
  • 16 JAN 1895 - Death - ; Ashton Under Lyne
  • 1847 - Fact -
  • 1851 - Fact -
  • Occupation - House painter
  • 1895 - Religion - Roman Catholic
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Frederick Jones
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Family Group Sheet - Child
PARENT (M) David Jones
Birth1791Lancashire, England
Death
Marriage10 OCT 1815to Elizabeth Chapman at Manchester Cathedral
Father?
Mother?
PARENT (F) Elizabeth Chapman
Birth
Death
Marriage10 OCT 1815to David Jones at Manchester Cathedral
Father?
Mother?
CHILDREN
FMary Ann Jones
Birth1816
Death
Marriage25 DEC 1843to Benjamin Webster at Manchester Cathedral
FFrances Jones
Birth1821
Death
MFrederick Jones
Birth13 FEB 1825Pendlebury, Lancashire.
Death16 JAN 1895Ashton Under Lyne
Marriage10 NOV 1847to Elizabeth Shepley at Dukinfield, District of Ashton and Oldham in the County of Lancaster and Chester. Married by George Fisher, Priest. Witn
Family Group Sheet - Spouse
PARENT (M) Frederick Jones
Birth13 FEB 1825Pendlebury, Lancashire.
Death16 JAN 1895 Ashton Under Lyne
Marriage10 NOV 1847to Elizabeth Shepley at Dukinfield, District of Ashton and Oldham in the County of Lancaster and Chester. Married by George Fisher, Priest. Witn
FatherDavid Jones
MotherElizabeth Chapman
PARENT (F) Elizabeth Shepley
BirthBEF 1 SEP 1826Hyde, Cheshire. Christened 17 September 1826, Gee Cross Unitarian - nc, Hyde, Cheshire [source IGI]. Born Werneth, Ches
Death19 FEB 1894
Marriage10 NOV 1847to Frederick Jones at Dukinfield, District of Ashton and Oldham in the County of Lancaster and Chester. Married by George Fisher, Priest. Witn
Father? ?
MotherAnn Shepley
CHILDREN
FMary Frances Shepley Jones
BirthABT 1855Glossop
Death1926
Marriageto Joseph Martin
Marriage6 JUN 1874to Timothy Morrisey at St Mary's RC Church, Dukinfield
MSamuel Shepley JONES
Birth1862
Death1932Hospital at Preston, funeral at Ashton, Lancashire, England. Death certificate is in Preston, Book 8e, Page 646 quarter
Marriage9 FEB 1886to Martha HULME at St Mary's Church, Ashton Under Lyne, witnesses David Jones and Esther Gratton
MDavid Jones
Birth5 JUN 1858Dukinfield.
Death30 JAN 190823 Portland Street, Ashton Under Lyne
Marriage1882to Emma Holt at St Paul's Church, Stayley (C of E)
FElizabeth Ann Jones
Birth20 FEB 1851Newton in the Sub-district of Newton and Godley in the County of Chester
Death18 NOV 1895
Marriage1894to Edward Grattan
Evidence
[S10998] Marriage Certificate obtained from the General Register Office through the Family Records Centre, London
[S22781] 1851 Census
[S34306] Dukinfield Cemetery photograph and records
[S33574] Sandra Mitcheson, researching Noonan and related families in Lancashire, 2004
Descendancy Chart
Frederick Jones b: 13 FEB 1825 d: 16 JAN 1895
Elizabeth Shepley b: BEF 1 SEP 1826 d: 19 FEB 1894
Mary Frances Shepley Jones b: ABT 1855 d: 1926
Timothy Morrisey d: BEF MAY 1905
Gertrude Morrisey b: 1879 d: 1951
Patrick Noonan b: 1871 d: 1951
Frances Mary Noonan b: 14 JUL 1909 d: AUG 1999
Samuel Shepley JONES b: 1862 d: 1932
Martha HULME b: 15 APR 1861 d: 1927
Samuel Anthony Jones b: 18 MAR 1897 d: 1980
Raymond Jones b: 22 OCT 1928 d: 8 MAY 2010
Doris Booth d: 1994
Joseph Jones b: 1 OCT 1893 d: 31 OCT 1976
Cathleen Maud Wright b: 25 APR 1893 d: 7 MAY 1983
Gerard (Gerry) Jones b: APR 1918 d: NOV 1993
Barbara Jones b: JUL 1922 d: 15 AUG 2007
Elizabeth (Linda) H Jones b: 1890 d: 1968
Frances Jones b: 1891 d: 1971
Dorothy (Dolly) Jones b: ABT DEC 1901 d: ABT 16 AUG 1988
Mary Agnes JONES b: 8 APR 1888 d: 8 DEC 1980
Richard W McDERMOTT b: 21 DEC 1889 d: 3 MAR 1953
Joseph Herbert McDermott b: 5 DEC 1916 d: 13 MAY 2005
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Catherine Josephine McDERMOTT b: 2 SEP 1919 d: 6 JUN 1994
William "Bruce" WILSON b: 31 OCT 1915 d: 3 SEP 2007
Mary McDERMOTT b: 8 APR 1913 d: 15 JUN 1964
Margaret McDERMOTT b: 29 DEC 1915 d: 21 SEP 1958
Agnes McDERMOTT b: 23 OCT 1923 d: DEC 2009
George EDWARDS b: 25 FEB 1919 d: 26 JUN 2003
Anne McDERMOTT b: 22 DEC 1927 d: 6 NOV 2004
Frank BOOTHBY d: 22 SEP 2005
Richard Francis McDERMOTT b: 29 MAY 1928 d: 5 MAY 1978
Winifride Jones b: 25 SEP 1896
Raymond Ray-Jones R.E., A.R.C.A. b: 31 AUG 1886 d: 26 FEB 1942
Effie Irene Pearce b: 18 AUG 1899 d: 26 JAN 1996
Holroyd Anthony Ray-Jones b: 7 JUN 1941 d: 13 MAR 1972
David Jones b: 5 JUN 1858 d: 30 JAN 1908
Frederick Jones b: 1886
Florence d: ABT 1929
Alice Jones b: 1891
Elizabeth Ann Jones b: 20 FEB 1851 d: 18 NOV 1895